Grudem & Baptism & Piper, O My!

UPDATE: Grudem has now responded to Piper.
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Here we go again.  Wayne Grudem tweaks his take on baptism and church membership in his Systematic Theology (HT:JT), and Piper isn't happy with the results.  Justin Taylor writes...

Grudem previously argued for "allowing both views of baptism [i.e., paedobaptism and credobaptism] to be taught and practiced in denominations on both sides of the question." Grudem has since changed his mind.

Remember Piper going through this issue with his church and constitution?  From his response to Grudem...

Evidently, Wayne is not so sure any more that we should make the effort to overcome the divisions among evangelicals for the sake of welcoming true brothers and sisters as members in the local church. I think his first edition was closer to the biblical balance.

I originally posted on this issue back in September of 2005.

Comments

[CM]

Ok, I'm probably just an idiot. I think your photo edit is hilarious, but ... I don't get it. Can you help me out? (Maybe I need to look at it with some of those glasses you're sporting.)

I know it will probably ruin the joke.

[CM]

I mean the photo with Piper's head--that's the one I don't get.

[Steve McCoy]

The issue is (has been) Piper wanting to allow membership in his church for convinced paedobaptists, with the hope they will come around. That's an all too simplistic explanation, but you get the gist. So Piper with the sign is a play on that idea, that they would not require baptism.

[CM]

Sorry to ruin the joke--humor is lost on me sometimes.

Thanks for the explanation.

[Rae Whitlock]

Thanks for bringing this to our attention, Steve. Interesting stuff.